Mason writes “I’m not quite sure how to start this other than with my first encounter.
In the summer of 2013 or 2014, I went camping with my friend Perry and his father in upstate New York, we lived in Saranac Lake, which is 15 minutes down the road from Lake Placid where the 1980 miracle on ice occurred. Upstate New York is nothing like the city that the state is most famously known for, its mountainous, and covered in forests, and is also home to the Adirondack state park, where our little town was nestled.
We had gone with his nearly estranged father to a camping ground near a lake, which one I cannot remember, as the area is littered with them. What I do remember however is Perry’s father had stopped us setting up camp to tell us a scary story, ironically enough about Sasquatch. He told us a story about it taking food and attacking campers, but the two of us both teenagers, blew off his story. I for one have always had an interest in Bigfoot, but growing up, every adult in my life had talked down to me or made fun of this interest, causing me to in a sense disengage from them when they attempted to talk shop with me.
This camp ground was large, and had over 20 slots, and his father had splurged in an attempt to reconcile with Perry, opting to rent a site next to the lake. Between our campsite and every other was about 100 feet of thick woods, to allow privacy between the families camping. At the time I believe it was us, and two other families as it was nearing the end of summer, and they were a few sites away from us. The camping was fun, and nothing too exciting occurred other than the three of us learning to set up an over complicated bass pro tent for a small family. At around 10 o’clock that night give or take an hour we had been sitting around our campfire when Perry’s father’s demeanor changed. For most of this day we had all three been very excited and having fun, but at this point in the night he seemed to suddenly become very serious. He got us to clean up our campsite and pack up everything aside from a large cooler he had brought along. Then he had ushered us into the tent. Perry and I, both being 13 or 14, were still awake, laughing over dumb jokes and attempting not to wake Perry’s father when we began to hear walking. At this time I had not been as well versed of the sounds of the woods as I would become later in life, but even then I could distinguish the sound of bipedal walking, especially when it sounded heavy. We heard something begin to approach our campsite, and at first I had wondered if it were a loon or heron which were all over the lake during the day. This however was quickly disproven when it approached our tent. Perry’s face suddenly became filled with fear, fear which matched the sudden sinking feeling growing in my chest and stomach. I had turned slightly to my left, onto my back, as I was closest to the side this unknown had approached, and something inside me demanded I not have my back to whatever this was. We sat there for what felt like forever, but could only have been a minute, when the side of the tent began to push in slowly, what was pushing it in has never left me. What I can only describe as a poorly outlined hand had pushed in the side of the tent. The tent wall had bulged inwards a good five or six inches and was starting to stretch as far inward as it could before the tent began to bend. The hand itself reminded me of my fathers hand, he is a man of 6 feet and over 250 pounds, and had hands that remind me of the cartoon character wreck it Ralph, or more accurately like a baseball glove. What shocked me most of all was that this hand seemed to be double or triple the size of my father’s hands.
I believe if it were not for what happened next, it may have kept moving its hand further. Perry’s father actively spoke in his sleep, a quirk of his that I at the time did not know. He had said something quiet, but just loud enough that it caused this hand to pull away. It was at this moment that the air began to feel electrified, like we had done something wrong, and the fear in my body then and even now rewriting this spiked. The woods had gone deadly silent, the only sound we could hear was the water from the lake make ten feet from our tent.
We froze, Perry and I had lain as flat as possible to avoid bringing attention to ourselves, and were doing our best to slow our breathing, to keep quiet. Perry’s father however had mumbled something else, and Perry decided he would attempt to wake him. It half worked, as his father seemed to hear Perry whispering to him, because the next thing I knew his father chuckled and said “You’re trying to scare me for the story aren’t you? Not gonna work” and moments later, his father was once again asleep.
As he spoke, we heard and felt the steps from earlier walk away from us, further into our campsite. We had pitched our tent on the edge of the site because a large picnic table sat in the center, this table is where we left our cooler. I mention this because you could hear the wood suddenly creaking as if something heavy was leaned on it or sat on it. Following this was the sound of the cooler opening, and the sound of plastic bags and cans being sorted through.
Perry and I held our breath, terrified. At the time I refused to believe it was Bigfoot, because I did not want what was happening to ruin my enjoyment of the subject.
We listened to it for quite some time, I believe four or five minutes, rummaging through the cooler, before we heard the cooler close, and the steps begin to move away. The next thing we heard was something entering the water, and the sound of something swimming away.
We stayed awake after that, or more accurately I did, Perry eventually got to sleep, I can only imagine he was exhausted from the terror we had felt. I, in my infinite wisdom of a brazen 13 or 14 year old, waited for sunrise to exit the tent, where I found our cooler still on the table but moved, and many of the items we had brought in the cooler strewn about the site. I did not see tracks, as the ground here was too hard, but what I did notice was that the cooler felt oily on the handles, like someone who had washed their hands in seed oils had touched it, or someone who had done an oil change had just manhandled the cooler. It also smelled slightly of mildew, or more accurately it smelled like stale air.
When Perry woke and so did his father, Perry apparently had decided to not talk about what had happened, and his father thought I was trying to scare him for as he put it “payback for yesterdays story”.
Suffice to say, I had grown a pair of eyes in the back of my head that night, which would keep me aware in the woods for years to come.
My second encounter is extremely brief, and at the time I was convinced by my mother that it was simply foxes attempting to mate. For you if you want to see where this one occurred, we lived at
220 Riverside Drive, Saranac Lake New York. Down the road from my old home was thick woods that went on fire miles, which are still there. My home was just up the road from it.
I know this had occurred in 2014 because my father had given me an IPad he no longer wanted for my birthday which was in March of that year. I had been up late watching YouTube, and enjoying some pirated shows on the site, and when I say late I mean 1 or 2 AM late.
I had always been spooked by sounds I’d never heard before, but never as afraid as what this would do to me.
I had just decided I needed to sleep when my dog Lakota, a Keeshond I just recently adopted began to whine. His cage was in my room. For context, this home was three stories tall, but built on an a steep hill. We had gotten this home from a family friend who had been building it for himself, but decided he didn’t want it when he found a “better property”. My room was on the “ground floor”. I put this in quotations because my room and the entire left half of the ground floor sat 10 feet above the driveway. The driveway, was about 40 or 50 feet long, extending past our house to a garage which is built into the hill, the hill itself was covered in thick woods and it was maybe 70 feet between our house and the people behind it. The driveway itself also opened a path up behind the garage, up into the woods.
So my room is about 10 feet above the driveway, but directly beside it, and I have a single window here. I had the window partly cracked, and my room was pretty quiet, I was trying not to wake my mother upstairs because her room was directly above mine and she could be very upset if I was too loud and woke her up. I was relaxed and enjoying myself as I had said before when a sound I can only describe as a bloody scream exploded up from the driveway. It was both deep and high pitched, and vibrated the glass in the windows, my TV and my entire body. I was instantly overcome with the deepest fear I have ever felt, and I threw the iPad down. Normally if I heard something that scared me I would just close the window and my bedroom door and hide under the covers, but this filled me with so much terror I threw my iPad, left my dog behind and went running into the hall. As soon as I made it into the hall, I could hear something in the distance answer back. I too began screaming, only instead of a guttural two toned shrieking I began screaming for my mother.
She came rushing down the stairs, I can only assume she too was awoken by these sounds. She however was angry with me. According to her that was foxes sending out a mating call. I had told her I don’t believe her and her response still sticks with me as an oddly funny reaction to such a terrifying moment. “What do you want me to do? Go outside and shoot it? I’m not doing that!”
I believe my panic had sent the screamer away from our home, because I never heard that sound again after the initial scream and answer from down the road.
For years I just accepted my mother’s reality, because I didn’t know what else it could be, until I was listening to your show. I’m not sure what episode it was but I know the sound. The moment I heard it I had a full blown panic attack, and was brought right back to that night. Every time I hear that sound I go back, not as panicked as before thankfully, but that sound will haunt me for the rest of my life. It is only thanks to you that I know what it was now. The audio I think of sounds feminine almost, like a banshee almost, and is followed by a deep call at the end. I believe it may have been on a recent episode.
Now for my final encounter or rather what I’d refer to as the most terrifying 3 months of my life.
I moved to Virginia in 2016, and have lived here since then. It was last year, 2024, when I had lost my job in retail. I had lost my grandmother who had been there my whole life, she had been there for me when I lost my sister in 2009 and even been there holding one of my mothers legs when I was born. This loss had hit me hard and I had lost the passion I had for my job and most things around me. It had been my spouse Lynn’s suggestion that I go into something new, something that got me outside, to help me find my passion for work again. So I applied to FedEX Ground in Winchester Virginia, and to my delight I got the job fairly quickly. I was trained, and put into my own truck within a month and a half of getting the gig. My route was Luray Virginia, specifically the area around Highway US-211 East, called Fairview. This area is mostly hills, woods, farms, pastures, and creeks. This is about as rural as you can get, internet vanishes here, your phone loses signal, and most people you speak to is related to five others here. I loved my route, except for three places on it.
To start was Piney Mountain Road. Piney Mountain goes up to a small paved circle where houses have mailboxes. The houses these boxes belong to were each up a steep mountain whose roads were carved out of the mud and dirt between trees, and every driveway was a challenge: the worst of all was at the top of the mountain, where a house had an inclined driveway. This driveway had no good turn arounds aside from a small patch of dirt that sat precariously over a small drop of about 70 feet onto a slope with a slight incline of 80°. I would have to do an eleven point turn to turn my vehicle around and then pray to god my brakes didn’t give out as I delivered these peoples packages. Well the more I delivered to them, the more I felt like someone was going to come out of the woods and attack me in the truck.
Every time I delivered to this home I was filled with dread to the point I once just left their boxes in the driveway and nearly killed myself flying down the mountain. There was one night however, when I was out extremely late delivering, that I arrived at the paved circle at the bottom of the mountain, and decided I was never driving up there again. I parked and was on the phone with my spouse, with an earbud in one ear. I was delivering to the only house at the bottom before I was to go up the mountain, when I began to hear nearly every sound I’ve ever heard you play on the podcast start up that mountain, I heard arguing samurai chatter, I heard howling, screaming, I heard branches and trees being torn apart, and I flew into my truck, leaving their packages in a drop box that belonged their neighbors and I left in tears.
Next, would be Morning Star Road or as google calls it “Jewell Hollow Road.” Not much happened here aside from two things. I saw a distant figure up on a hill one day for maybe a moment that was man shaped and black, and an old woman who told me and I quote her directly “the boogers don’t like you speeding around here.”
To finish out I would have to drive up a road directly behind the Shenandoah national park HQ, East Rocky Branch. This road went far back into the woods, surround by it really, on the right side of the road was a 10 foot drop into a ditch with a river at the center, and on the left was a hill connected to a small mountain. I drove this entire road, delivering boxes to every house, except for the ones at the ends. Every time I would drive down this road I would get an odd feeling, like I was being watched. I had chalked it up to paranoia; because I had been listening to your shows episodes I’d downloaded on the app, I just had become a true member and not an Apple podcast listener anymore. For months I was just calling it paranoia, denying the occasional stick break, the woods going silent, or the feeling of being watched. There was even a point when I had gone a different road this occurred so I assumed I had just begun overthinking, until the last two months I worked for FedEX. I had a house I delivered to at the end, which had a large cleared yard with trees surrounding it. There was a large opening about maybe 40 feet wide that looked all the way to a small waterfall about 200 feet from where I’d park in their gravel driveway. I had met the family who lived here a few times, and the father was a good 6’5 maybe 6’6. This is important because I would often see the father about halfway back towards this waterfall, and he would stand beside a tree in this clear view in order to talk with me as I delivered packages, mainly to tell me where to place them.
It was November, and I was arriving in their driveway on a day they must not have been home, because their car that usually blocked me from doing an easy turn around in this driveway was gone. So I parked sideways in the driveway, and began to take their package out. I hadn’t noticed it yet, but the woods were silent aside from the occasional gust of wind. The package was quite heavy; and I had been spouting some expletives as I was not in the best of shape, but I eventually got it on their porch. Once I did, I turned around and looked back in the clearing.
What I saw fills me with dread to this day. ”
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Jacob S
Thanks Wes!
James G
Whoop
Lisa B
Wahoo Wes! ♥️
Brian L
Whoop Whoop!! Thanks Wes
Paula J
Thanks Wes 😄
Randy Z
Happy Saturday everyone
Francesco V
woo I’m early
Thanks Wes!!
Hi!!
Leslie M
hi Wes
Venzulo
Aw yeah beb
Thanks Wes!
MIKE L
Working on a Ducati 1198 while listening to episode 1198….Can’t make that shit up….Doesn’t get any better then this!!!!!!!!
Charles R
Wow, that is one serious super bike, do be careful. Im too old and my ergonomics only alow me to ride cruisers of which I have had quite a few. My avatar is me standing and touching next to an almost 7 foot tall hundreds of pound painted Bigfoot statue in Fort Loramie, Ohio. Kid Rock bought the same one here while doing the annual country concert event a few years ago to take to his vacation house in Northern Michigan. In the foreground is my Victory Cross Country.
Justin C
C’mon man will ya! This dog is hilarious. Teddy the flying sociopath. Upstate in the house. You gotta know where you were at bro. It’s 6 million acres man not exactly a short drive from anywhere. Not liking how we are starting off here.
Justin C
But thank you sir very much appreciate these always
Lisa B
Winchester, Virginia is a beautiful area!
Chad W
It sure is! And this time of the year, especially!
Maria G
Thx Wes. Looking forward to hearing tonight’s episode. Hi everyone 👋👋
Joseph K
Thanks, Wes!!
Anna K
That’s awesome Wes! He sounds adorable 😍
Justin C
You are a true professional wes
James G
If it were just an animal, what about the face could be so terrifying where the brain blocks even the slightest memory of it? There either something so shocking about the face where one’s memory can’t accept it OR in their weird way, they don’t let you remember it. Many times we hear of them hiding their face
Lisa B
Appreciate you sharing your experiences Mason! Thanks for putting the lights on Wes! 🥰
Mason P
Thanks again for having me on Wes, and thanks for hearing me out everyone, have a wonderful day or night, whenever my episode finds you
James G
Great job Mason, don’t let the fear overcome you. You have a partner and child that need you to be strong for them. Find your strength there!!!
Shawn R
Great Job Mason 👏
Charles R
Thanks for sharing you encounters with us Mason, I know it was hard for you. Best of luck in your move and adventures in Florida. Who knows, you just come across a skunk ape down there. At least you are aware.
Kevin P
I guess I’m lucky… I remember the exact year, date, time, weather, etc…
Shawn R
👉 What a great way to enjoy a Saturday night! Thanks Wes! Take care everyone 👍
Taylor S
This dude is giving so many unnecessary details. Hard to listen to this one phew!
Taylor S
Yeah I don’t believe this kid for a second. He spends an hour talking about nothing then when it comes to details of the creature he can’t remember it.
Russell M
Nah, I believe him Taylor. He might be adding details to fill in the blanks regarding what he doesn’t actually remember. Which, a lot of people do when telling stories. Plus, he’s young(er) and everyone has different ways of telling stories. I mean, if he really doesn’t remember a specific detail about the creature, do you want him to make that up, or be honest?
Kylie B
Thanks Mason, listening fron NZ, that creature waving back at you sounds terrifying!
Chad W
Thank for sharing, Mason! Thanks as always, Wes! We lived in the northern Shenandoah Valley for many years, on the edge of Winchester, VA. We made the trip down to Luray a bunch of times, to go to the caverns, or just to admire the scenery. I’m ultra-fascinated to hear of sasquatch sightings in that area. I didn’t realize that area had so many sightings, but it definitely is wooded and rugged enough to hide something, or multiple “somethings”…
John B
Listening from Incheon, South Korea.
Dana S
Thanks Wes! I hope your little guy is doing better than last week! Keep your ‘extended family’ posted!!!
Suzanne R
Thank you Mason for sharing. Wes, I hope your valient flyer recovers from his flight attempts.
Charles R
Bob Gimlin explained the hair on Patty as Indian type hair, very similar to what Mason is describing I think. So his Bigfoot is built like a those men in worlds strongest man contests, very nice description. I feel bad for Mason to how it affected him. Maybe this will pass in time. I do think that the house owner had some kind of relationship with this Bigfoot, maybe feeding it somewhat. As to the screams in his youth I have heard similar and you know it is not human and no other domestic or forest animal. Amazing how many people that have one experience regarding Bigfoot, have multiple encounters or sightings.
Happy Wes that Teddy is doing well, and has a great personality.
Jason G
Not buying it
Craig F
I can relate to seeing things when out on a delivery route, that’s what I do for a living. This week I saw something run across the road so fast that I couldn’t get a good look at it. It wasn’t all that big could have possibly have been a bobcat. Moving at what looked to be about 60 miles an hour. I saw raised shoulders I thought like an ape running on all fours, but it was such a blur it almost looked like a giant bat, probably 3 feet tall. Never seen anything in nature move that fast. Saw something just not sure what. When delivering I get some dog sounding greetings from places where there shouldn’t be any dogs. Whatever is out there isn’t my friend exactly but it or they know me. They kinda greet me in dog/ strange bird sounds. How much is me just imagining things are not what they seem I don’t know. One owl sound made me feel like a tiny insect vulnerable to squishing. Glad you came forward with your encounters, the more people tell their experiences the better for everyone.
Me
Sean S
“Teddy, you can’t fly…”
Oh man Wes, I haven’t laughed out loud and crying laughing that hard in months!! Probably a year, really!
Just something about the matter-of- fact delivery.
In fact, my neighbor came over to check on me!
Happy to hear that he’s doing well!
Also, sorry to hear the trauma tonight’s guest had.
Beth L
Episode 471 has a scream like a banshee and is from 2018. Maybe that is what Mason is referring to. I’ve hear that scream as well, it’s the most terrifying thing I’ve ever heard in my life.
Beth L
Episode 471 has a scream like a banshee and is from 2018. Maybe that is what Mason is referring to. I’ve heard that scream as well, it’s the most terrifying thing I’ve ever heard in my life.
Dianne B
I heard it too, at Mirror Lake, I thought it was some woman being murdered or tortured, but it changed in tone and depth, I tried to wake my husband but it took so long and I was afraid to make a sound! Mirror Lake is in Utah. We were in a two man tent, we left after a long night holding a gun, longest night ever!
Wayne G
You could hear the terror in his voice. Mason, your encounter is now one has become one of my favorites. Thanks for sharing!
Dovie D
A day late but thank you Wes for another great interview.. it took a lot of strength and courage for your guest and he did it! 🙏💕
Jessica B
That sounds really scary. I would feel so scared about the Sasquatch and so troubled by the way the father turned a cold
Shoulder to you. Sounds like your friend and his father had some hard stuff o work through already , let alone Sasquatch. I would find that such a traumatizing combo of twisting my paradigm about Dads as well as …reality in general.
Leslie B
Strange you can remember the details about the skin on his hand, the back of his head, the hair., but not the face? 🤔
Stacey A
We camp on a private farm in Rileyville just outside of Luray. The campsite is right on the Shenandoah River. My son and I heard the Ohio howl late one afternoon while camping a few years back. They are in that area for sure
Ellie B
Teddy may be pulling a Binky 🤔🐾 https://youtu.be/KA0yGbZBWqY?si=tI4MeO2YfuyCaYHX
Philip H
Not buying this one.
JONATHAN O
Not looking like Todd Standing’s photos is an indicator of authenticity. Todd takes photos of himself. ThinkerThunker convinced me.
Sean O.
One of the friends I was with when I had one of my experiences would not accept that it was anything other than a bird as well even though we heard it’s crazy rambling and gibberish. I’ve never heard a bird make noises like that.
Candace N
I believe you, Mason. I’m a licensed clinical social worker with a significant portion of my caseload pressnting with trauma. One of the most common symptoms of ptsd is “inability to remember key aspects of the event.
Christina S
going though the comments- I think a lot of you need to remember that you can’t dictate to this guy about what his own experience. his experience is his.
I think this is a great and fascinating account. especially when you put your hand up and it did it too. thank you for sharing 👣
Darin H
I seen that Adirondack Bigfoot and his name is Stinky Jones. He has a Bigfoot wife name Patty Poop!
Daniel B
No way to email you through your home page anymore???? I submitted my membership payment twice and still have no access?? Tried emailing your personal email and it was kicked back.. is it time to just stop being a member after 6 yeqrs??? Daniel.. bflyinhigh72@gmail.com